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RMSC News 2013 Issue 6 November-December 2013


From your Club President


Another year has passed and this year our club participated in many interest- ing gatherings. I really cannot put a finger on any one specific reason why I like our Saab club other than it is really enjoyable to be around Saab enthusiasts.

I am very happy to share my knowledge with anyone who wants to talk Saab. We recently gathered for a V-4 transmission rebuild party and it was a hit. A large group showed up to not only learn but to just be around other.

Saab enthusiasts This is what I am talking about. Our group seems to have a long tenure with Saab auto- mobiles.

I personally have been around Saabs since I was 11 years old. Believe it or not that’s 49 years!! We have a great club and I owe it to all of our members to keep it strong. Happy Holidays, drive safe

December is the month for the RMSC's annual Christmas Dinner, so no regular meeting is scheduled

and look forward to what next year will bring to our wonderful club.

Photo by Charles Stoyer

by Darrell Christonsen (photos by Tom Nelson)

The October general meeting of the RMSC was held in the meeting room at the Breckenridge Brewery on south Kalamath Street, in Denver.


The meeting opened with Bruce Harbison offering some free air filters for 86-88 Saab model 9000’s.


Jerry introduced the following new members in attendance:

Jason Martin owns a 2002 & 2003 (for sale) Aero X, and a Turbo X

Larry Ottele owns a 2001 9-3 CV

Tom Janson Owned (sold) 91 900 CV and a 90 900 CV. Currently looking for a Saab Johnathan Jaynes owns 92 900 & 90 SPG Brett Barker recently purchased a 1964 96 2-stroke


Jerry introduced John Libbos, currently working for Maserati, who spent 1987 thru 2012 working for Saab as a senior product specialist SCUSA headquarters in Norcross GA and later in Royal Oak MI. John cur-


rently owns a 1994 9000CS. As noted, John worked various positions with Saab, during his tenure, and is currently doing Product Training at Maserati dealerships around the country. He did work briefly with Saab Parts NA earlier this year, but his commitments with Maserati became more demanding. There was considerable discussion with the group concerning the parts availability for various vintages of Saabs through Saab Parts. Availability on

the more recent models is good, getting harder to find for the classic 900’s, alt- hough parts are available thru lots of non- OEM vendors.


At the Board Meeting on October 4th, the following were elected as officers for the coming year:

Jerry Danner - President Paul Bottone - Treasurer Darrell Christiansen Secretary

And the following chairmen were selected: Tom Nelson - Membership Charles Stoyer - Newsletter

John Clary - Special Projects

John Clary gave an update on the current Club Projects, Colleen, and Rob. On Project



Colleen, the last thing to do is to replace the driver’s side front fender after the rust on the inner fender was cut out. A new inner fend- er lip will be welded on, and the replace- ment fender glued on

and repainted. Glu- ing of body parts is now the latest tech- nology for improving the repair of damage body panels. Time will be scheduled when Jerry is back in town and the shop is available.

Project Rob, the 1986 SPG, that came from Rob Martinson’s estate, will be the next pro-

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ject that the club tackles. It was a project of Rob’s that was unfinished, and the Club will reinstall the engine and transmission, steering

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rack, and miscellaneous other parts that were removed for rebuilding. Many pieces are cur- rently being stored in the trunk.

Tom presented a slide show of the retrieval of two Bullnose Saabs from the Grand Lake area

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that Charles found. The cars have been re- moved from their resting places, and are ready to be hauled down the mountain. Brett, new member, purchased the beige 1964 96 2- stroke as a restoration project. The cars were a package deal, and the fate of the other car will be determined when the condition is de- termined. Tom stated that it might become a parts car. As usual, there are many parts stored in the trunks of both cars.

A slide show of Saab competition cars from the early 50’s until Saab got out of competi- tion in about 1976, was presented. The slides were courtesy of Peter Backström who runs the Saab Museum in Trollhäten. Many of the pictures had Erik Carlsson in them, along with several other drivers for the Saab team. The famous picture of Carlsson sitting beside the overturned Saab was discussed at length. Turns out that the whole thing was staged, per Bruce Harbison.

The 2014 Saab Owners Convention will be held in Eagle Crest, Oregon on August 7-10, 2014. North West Saab Owners Club will be hosting this event. Dan Morley, President of the club and chairman of SOC14, along with Phil Lacefield will be planning this event. A tour of Oregon State, much like the ones we have put on at SOC, for this get together in Oregon.


A slide presentation was shown of the Club’s trip to the Grand Junction area over the Labor Day weekend. The club went to the Classic Car Show in Grand Junction, the Tammy Al- len car museum, in Grand Junction, the John Hendricks museum in Gateway, and the Colo- rado National Monument.

As Charles will write below, these are the last chap- ters in the long and useful life of a certain Red 1969 96 Deluxe. Many parts from this car were used for Project Laura (see our Website) and a couple of other club members’ cars, but she remained pretty much intact and “drivable (?)” I decided to get the engine running like I had for the blue 1970 96 that I finally parted out last year (see February, 2013 Newsletter). As you can see from these photos, she was no longer a “prize” but perhaps still willing to show her best


side, at least once. She was given a good pressure wash and I started to work on her to see if she would start and run. She had last run about five years before


when I needed to move all my Project cars to make room for parking for a party. At that time the alterna- tor shorted out and the diode pack fell out. “Decent”

wheels and tires were found from my collection and she was ready to roll into the shop. The alternator was replaced, the wiring harness to the ignition switch replaced, a new battery procured, plugs changed and coolant and oil checked. All the fuses were new as well.


The 1.5L engine sported a manual-choke Weber 34ICH carburetor, Mallory electronic ignition, an electric fuel pump and the front half of an MSS sport exhaust. The rear exhaust was made up of who knows what! After some priming of the carburetor, the engine fired almost immediately and actually idled well after warming up. The electric pump was under the (removed) back seat, so I just put my aux. fuel tank there and ran a rubber hose to the already cut metal line. Since I had fuel inside the car and the


brake pedal was hard, I proceeded to drive down and up our long driveway and also around our two-acre pasture. I was able to shift into all gears, using fourth for only a brief time due to space restrictions. I al- most went out on Baseline Rd., but I thought better of it.

‘Ol Red Sam performed well, with no leaks or over-


heating for the brief time I got to test her. Her oil pressure was about 40 psi at 190°, and compression was in the 90s, but even. The brakes and clutch sys- tem worked perfectly.


I really hated to part out this car, but the body was well beyond any reasonable repair with serious rust in the floors, rear quarters and trunk. The reader can

also see the state of the LR fender. It was cut off


with a Sawzall to allow access to the rear suspension when the car was disassembled. Her legacy will live on!

The good news is that many of her good usable parts


will be used on cars owned by RMSC members such as Tom Nelson, Larry Beetham, Bob Buck, David Finlay and others. Nothing will really go to waste except for some of the perished “soft” items that can’t be re-used or recycled. Many thanks to Bob Buck, Tom Nelson and Steve McCoy for invaluable help and assistance! I will later post a short video of the engine running to our website.

Obituary: Sam Goes to the Crusher

by Charles Stoyer (Photos by Tom Nelson)

Sam was a good car. We bought him on 5 Jan 1969 in Allentown PA and drove him home to Vera Cruz in a snowstorm. Nothing could make it up that hill that night but Sam did! (see article in Feb 07 Newsletter)

Sam came with us when we moved to Penn State (State College, PA) and made many trips back and forth to Reading and Lancaster, not to mention a lot of driving on dirt roads in the state forests.


Then Sam came with us to Longmont CO where he was later joined by Sally, a 1969 Saab 95 wagon. Af- ter less than a year, it was off to Las Cruces NM, where there wasn’t a Saab dealer within probably a


1,000 miles (or much else, for that matter). But Sam survived and came back with us to Golden CO where in 1982 I decided to refurbish Sam.

Actually, Sam and Sally weren’t named until my


daughter Brooke was old enough to think of such a thing, probably shortly after we moved back to Colo- rado and I acquired a green Sonett III which was named… you guessed it….Kermit!

We didn’t get all that much snow in Pennsylvania but they sure did use a lot of salt. And that did take a toll on Sam. There was a head gasket problem with Sam and I had an offer of help and rebuilt the engine and refurbished the body in 1982. But in the mid ‘90’s I realized that Sam was a rust bucket and sold it to a friend Bruce Stewart for $200. He drove it for a while and sold it later to Bruce Harbison of RMSC who re- named it Ol’ Red. I Bruce Harbison stored it until that recent fatal day when he had stripped the car of all valuables and Tom Nelson helped him to take it to that big parking lot in the sky (previous article).


Goodbye Sam! You were a great car!

Extraction of the Grand Lake Bullnose/Parts Car - Oct 2013

by Tom Nelson

Much has been published already on our RMSC web sites, both YahooGroups and FaceBook, but here's some details about the trip I took to salvage some body parts from the bullnose 1961 Saab 96 that Charles Stoyer found mired in a mud hole near his home in Grand Lake, CO. When Charles mentioned these old 2-stroke Saabs, I set out to find a person that would eventually buy these beautiful


cars. I also announced that I was in search of better fend- ers for my grandkids car, Project RedBull, and it turns out that this red bullnose is an exact twin to RedBull.

Brett Barker, our new RMSC member, had already been up to Grand Lake to make a deal to buy the 2 cars, so they


were essentially sold when Brett offered to let me have the red parts car pictured here. I decide to take on the chal- lenge to extract the car from the mud and get it to a loca- tion where it could be loaded on a trailer. So in early Octo- ber, off I went with my pickup loaded with tools, chains,

jacks, come-alongs, and my primary lifting tool the big

orange log skidder that I normally pull behind my ATV to skid saw logs to the sawmill.


To make a long story short, within a couple hours of work, I had shoveled, jacked, lifted and drug the car out of the deep grass and mud where it had resided for decades. At about the point of declaring success, who should show up,


but Charles himself. He was coming home from a morning of chasing the elusive bull moose during his 2-week moose hunting season.

The sequence of events depicted in the 4 photos ends with Charles joining me for a Victory Photo. The car was safely on dry land, out of the mud, and ready to join Brett's much nicer beige 1964 model 96 pictured in the background.

The story of loading both cars and hauling them back to the Denver area will show up in a future issue.

RMSC BOARD MEETING OCTOBER 4, 2013 – Buckhorn Exchange

by Darrell Christiansen

Attendees: Jerry Danner, John Clary, Paul Bottone, Bob Buck, Darrell Christiansen, Dave Snider, Larry Beetham

2013 -2014 Board Positions:

President Jerry Danner

Treasurer Paul Bottone

Secretary Darrell Christiansen

Special Projects John Clary

Newsletter Charles Stoyer

Special Projects:

Project Colleen:

Need to get fender lip welded on and glue on fender. This should take a couple of weekends, Saturdays, for a few hours

each. Tentative meeting set for Saturday October 12 at 9:30

a.m. subject to Jerry confirming date and time. John will send out an announcement to the Club members.

Project Rob:

The Club will initially work on this project at Jerry’s shop. This project will start as soon as project Colleen is completed.

October Meeting:

Meeting booked up with plenty of things to present, SOC 2013 in Albany, New York, and the Fall Club event to Grand Junc- tion.

December Meeting:

Paul will check out several choices for the annual December meeting and present to the board for final approval.

1958 Saab 93B Engine Transplant Upgrade

by Jerry Danner


I acquired this 1958 SAAB 93 from our Rocky Mountain Saab Club member Barry Nash. This car had been sitting for a num- ber of years. I have been driving this car and noticed there is a loud main bearing noise coming from the engine. The noise is similar to a very bad wheel bearing growling while driving. Before the connecting rod or main bearing totally freezes up damaging the block, I decided to repair the engine before it gets very expensive or damaged the engine beyond repair. I called Bob Buck to give me a hand pulling the engine. I needed more help as I just came off shoulder surgery not being able to lift anything with my left arm. We disconnected everything needed to pull the engine. The engine only weighs 100 pounds so we decided to just lift the engine out without any mechanical lift help.

This engine had been upgraded from the original engine. It cur- rently is an 850CC engine single carb, 42hp mixer. I have an

engine from a 1963 96 GT 850 73hp with three carbs, oil in- jected that is still in the car. We fired the engine up in the GT850 before we pulled it to see if it sounded good. It sounded great so we pulled it. The transmission in the 1958



Saab had a little noise so we pulled the transmission also. I will go through the transmission, reinstall and place the GT850cc engine into the 1958. Once the GT805cc high horsepower en- gine is installed, it will be a sleeper and a screamer. Progress will be continued...

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